tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post4976925127644369829..comments2023-10-18T02:03:42.145-07:00Comments on LEARNING TO LIVE FREE: Does Religion Subjugate Women?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-62875503691435353662009-12-16T05:25:34.819-08:002009-12-16T05:25:34.819-08:00Jimmy Carter and others who are like-minded would ...Jimmy Carter and others who are like-minded would do well to read Mulierus Dignitatem as a starting point. One appears foolish to rant about the Carholic Church without first making the effort to learn what the Church created by Christ himself actally teaches!Tom Langhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13056149939136199202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-82712434325437504542009-12-16T17:34:17.537-08:002009-12-16T17:34:17.537-08:00Are you calling Jimmy Carter a foolish ranter? Met...Are you calling Jimmy Carter a foolish ranter? Methinks the lady doth protest too much. Carter's message seems thoughtful and measured. And it's hard to argue that the church hasn't been influenced by the sexism present throughout Western history in the last 2000 years.Ilmarinennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-56528698970759586562009-12-17T13:53:52.720-08:002009-12-17T13:53:52.720-08:00While Jimmy Carter is entitled to his opinion, I&#...While Jimmy Carter is entitled to his opinion, I'm wondering why he is making it his business to urge Catholic, Orthodox and others who do not allow women pastors and priests to become "militant" (his word) in pushing for these changes. I agree with 75% of what he says, but in the end he seems to equate inequality in pay and position in the West to what happens to women in many other cultures, and there is simply no comparison. Where are his priorities? It seems he, of all people, would be especially aware of this. Is he just trying to be diplomatic by not becoming militant about religions that are truly dangerous to women and children? Is he afraid to do that, or does the West just simply come up short once again? Denominations have the right to make these decisions themselves, and in the West there are laws that can and should be enforced where there is true abuse. In other parts of the world religion is law, and it allows and enforces tremendous violations of human rights. No comparison.<br><br>I did appreciate his comments about women having roles in the early church.<br><br>My two cents.Norahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16601605468299470951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-8589207449386978552009-12-18T03:59:47.347-08:002009-12-18T03:59:47.347-08:00Women have never been priests or bishops. But it i...Women have never been priests or bishops. But it is true that there have been deaconesses. However, it is unclear what their exact role was in the early church. It is known that they were women who were older than 40, they were ordained, they assisted in the baptism of women and other parish actitivies relating to women, but the details of their ministry are not known very well.Hibernatusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-57328134470913280962009-12-22T16:09:25.559-08:002009-12-22T16:09:25.559-08:00It's not a matter of males vs females. Jesus c...It's not a matter of males vs females. Jesus chose only men to start churches and be in positions of church leadership. Even many women today acknowledge this. The Catholic Church's position on Mary and women is balanced and very Biblical. It acknowledges she is blessed ("Blessed art thou among women") and also that the first apostles and church planters were men. Both are derived straight from the New Testament. We have people today fed up with tradition and so are just choosing whatever they feel good about--homosexuality, premarital sex, cohabitation, contraception, alcohol, women in the pastorate or priesthood, etc--and the Bible has a statement about that: "Hold the traditions you have learned, both by word and our epistle" 2 Thess. 2) and the tradition is opposed to the philosophy of "Whatever seems right or feels good is fine." Society is crumbling because of its disdain and hatred for such tradition.Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-47267766429467947352009-12-23T09:58:58.155-08:002009-12-23T09:58:58.155-08:00An interesting response to Carter's essay here...An interesting response to Carter's essay <a href="http://www.laphamsquarterly.org/essays/the-original-sin.php?page=all" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br><br>http://www.laphamsquarterly.org/essays/the-original-sin.php?page=allFree2bmenoreply@blogger.com