tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post2145896799261810725..comments2023-10-18T02:03:42.145-07:00Comments on LEARNING TO LIVE FREE: Vote Today . . .Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger109125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-56464031132327345282006-11-07T09:18:00.000-08:002006-11-07T09:18:00.000-08:00Oh, I forgot to add, if you are Republican, vote N...Oh, I forgot to add, if you are Republican, vote NEXT Tuesday.Julie Whitehornhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16921829370327742832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-16436834914893516142006-11-07T09:35:00.000-08:002006-11-07T09:35:00.000-08:00I feel sorry for your lack of wisdom. I think you...I feel sorry for your lack of wisdom. I think you just throw these kinds of comments to get people fired up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-40646910599050644722006-11-07T12:04:00.000-08:002006-11-07T12:04:00.000-08:00I just took it as a funny comment.Your comment, ho...I just took it as a funny comment.<br>Your comment, however, I took as judgmental and rude.exoalchttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12195180245552127271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-36193175720576213622006-11-07T12:06:00.000-08:002006-11-07T12:06:00.000-08:00LOL Free.. actually, I voted mostly Republican, ex...LOL Free.. actually, I voted mostly Republican, except for our Democratic governor in Michigan. Found DeVos too over the top and ran a very nasty campaign. And the Amway connection - eek.<br><br>We had some interesting ballot proposals here also.. DNR funding, ban affirmative action, hunting for mourning doves, eminent domain.. an interesting year and a big turnout in our area. Will be interesting to watch the results tonight!norahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-26855018398646846102006-11-07T14:58:00.000-08:002006-11-07T14:58:00.000-08:00I voted a split ticket: Republican, Democrat, Gree...I voted a split ticket: Republican, Democrat, Green, and a write in. It went smoothly. The one thing that frustrated me was researching the issues for the down-ticket items like ballot proposals and such.<br><br>As far as the comment, it made me chuckle, and I think I can see a bit of mischieviousness in your picture. Way to go!Ilmarinenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08419043306301112831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-47308433728935908772006-11-07T16:20:00.000-08:002006-11-07T16:20:00.000-08:00Free, I must have had a defective ballot or someth...Free, I must have had a defective ballot or something because I didn't see any Democrat candidates on there. The Republicans and Libertarians had to share. Oh well, maybe next time...no, come to think of it, probably not.<br><br>The important thing is make sure you vote your convictions, whatever they might be. I figure as long as I vote, then I have the right to bitch.cvowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05363193317516090926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-49511132993425555552006-11-07T16:52:00.000-08:002006-11-07T16:52:00.000-08:00Good girl Free! I smiled when I read your comment....Good girl Free! I smiled when I read your comment. To anonymous, lighten up and life is so much sweeter. My friend and I exchange ALL donkey and elephant type humor that we come across. She's a misquided Republican and I am a very wise Democrat (for the most part).<br><br>I did vote a slightly split ticket because there were 2 Republicans in my state that deserved my vote. One being our Atty. General and the other being the Sec. of State. To all of the rest of the Rebublicans on my ballot.....bye bye now! Can't wait to see the results. I'm especially curious how a few of the proposals will go. <br>One reason I vote is because I feel it is my duty as a Christian and to honor my grandparents who forfeited so much to come to the U.S. from Finland.Ijumpedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04246448196579295253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-90025702702853450192006-11-07T17:55:00.000-08:002006-11-07T17:55:00.000-08:00Thanks for having my back, friends -- although fra...Thanks for having my back, friends -- although frankly, I myself feel sorry for my "lack of wisdom." But one does one's best.<br><br>cvow, as I inked in my ballot this evening, it was particularly gratifying to know that it was <i>your votes</i> mine were cancelling. Conservatives are rare in these parts, and getting ever rarer.<br><br>But seriously, has anyone read about the election in Nicaragua? Don't you find it disturbing that the standards we require for fair elections in <i>other</i> countries are not met in our own?<br><br>The Carter/Baker pursuit of U.S. election reform is worth supporting, regardless of today's outcome.Julie Whitehornhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16921829370327742832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-63015947413203380492006-11-07T19:33:00.000-08:002006-11-07T19:33:00.000-08:00Ah Free, as if I could hope for anything else!Not ...Ah Free, as if I could hope for anything else!<br><br>Not to worry, I'm sure a little more time on this forum and I'll start to enlighten you to the truth as well. You young'uns just need to get dry behind the ears (yup, that's old farmer talk -- a big hooray to anyone that can tell me the origin) and grow a little more before you'll be ready to make the big step and vote GOP.cvowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05363193317516090926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-72344477251861954992006-11-08T09:34:00.000-08:002006-11-08T09:34:00.000-08:00I had to chuckle too with frees statement, I agree...I had to chuckle too with frees statement, I agree, lighten up anon!! I voted Democrat all the way in my state. I still would have chuckled at her statement if I were Republican!Faithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12086359067322870879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-21581085452257557432006-11-08T09:42:00.000-08:002006-11-08T09:42:00.000-08:00cvow, you're going to force us other old duffe...cvow, you're going to force us other old dufferettes to come to free's defense, not that she needs defending. I for one became un-Republican as I grew older and began to think for myself.<br>I realized after the last election that I had voted a split ticket - split between the PEOPLE I voted for and the referendums. I voted Republican all the way on the referendums, vice versa on the people. That's because the Republicans STAND FOR lower taxes, smaller govt, etc but the jerks are giving us and the country away to the corps and their buddies with the bucks. And you have to agree that I am right about that. So I don't trust the SOBs one bit, the double-crossers. And that's about as political as I'm about to get. MTHMany Trails Homenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-56850269711327327262006-11-08T15:15:00.000-08:002006-11-08T15:15:00.000-08:00A female politician from San Francisco as Speaker ...A female politician from San Francisco as Speaker of the House. Maybe we'll begin to see some investing in education and healthcare. Nice!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-17535227929824809962006-11-08T17:03:00.000-08:002006-11-08T17:03:00.000-08:00MTH, you're right, Free doesn't need defen...MTH, you're right, Free doesn't need defending! She can beat me up just fine without you ganging up on me too, especially since my cohort Stylux must have gotten bored with the forum and no longer has my back. :-)<br><br>I also agree that the old Republican party used to be all about fiscal responsibility and small government. That's why these days I vote for more and more Libertarians! Most Democrats have drawn one line that I will not and cannot cross and that is their support of legalized murder (abortion). If they take that position, I won't vote for them even if they walk on water.<br><br>Actually I look for the middle of the roaders because I don't like either extreme. If the Dems would have run Lieberman in the last election, I'd have voted for him, but he wasn't far enough to the left for the Dems so they cast him away, and in bittersweet revenge, he just blew their replacement away running as an independent. I always really liked Sam Nunn as well, and thought he and John Warner would have made a heck of a team if those party lines could have been crossed.<br><br>So the pendulum has swung, and that's a good thing. It probably swung too far, which is a bad thing. Oh well. The inefficiencies of our electoral system are one of the things that makes America great. It's kind of hard to keep the ship of state going in the right direction, but the effort makes it worthwhile even if we wobble from side to side.<br><br>Anon, I do wish that education and health care and social security and all sorts of social issues would get more attention. There is a right answer between the extreme positions usually taken by our two party system. Frankly, the thought of Pelosi heading up the House majority makes me shudder. The last good thing to come out of San Francisco as far as I can tell was the 1906 earthquake...or wait, there is Anchor Steam as well. :-)cvowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05363193317516090926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-8381001367144765472006-11-08T17:09:00.000-08:002006-11-08T17:09:00.000-08:00Yes, where did our friend Stylux go?Yes, where did our friend Stylux go?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-1122392180238785662006-11-08T18:57:00.000-08:002006-11-08T18:57:00.000-08:00Dear CVOW,I used to be a firm supporter of NO ABOR...Dear CVOW,<br>I used to be a firm supporter of NO ABORTION at any cost. Then someone put in my brain that if young girl (aged 8 to 12) gets molested she can become pregnant. Unfortunately in the world we live in, this can and does happen. Do we force this child to carry a baby to term?<br>Thats all I have to say on that.Ijumpedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04246448196579295253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-19009100065775243602006-11-08T21:43:00.000-08:002006-11-08T21:43:00.000-08:00ijumped: How does that really help her? An abortio...ijumped: How does that really help her? An abortion won't make it go away. It is not a better or easier option for her and definitely not for the baby! What about all the girls who are forced into having their baby murdered and then they have to live with that for the rest of their lives. And her molester gets away with it because he can just take her in for an abortion and nobody is any wiser (because Planned Parenthood doesn't usually report it!). <br><br>Another thought on the subject; carrying the baby to term gives her opportunity to bless (adoption a blessing to adoptive parents and the baby) and be blessed (by having a child to love). Granted they are both difficult choices, but so is abortion and where is there any blessing in that?joynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-89541601901822460692006-11-08T22:20:00.000-08:002006-11-08T22:20:00.000-08:00Abortion is a really tough issue, and I know that ...Abortion is a really tough issue, and I know that there are the cases (although not nearly so many as the pro-choicers would have you believe) where your heart just aches for the woman or girl involved.<br><br>That does not change the fact that the unborn child did no wrong but will be killed anyway. That is incontrovertible and undeniable evidence, regardless of our human emotions.<br><br>The good Lord never said it was gonna be easy.cvowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05363193317516090926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-82451118085242430502006-11-09T02:26:00.000-08:002006-11-09T02:26:00.000-08:00cvow,You are against legalised murder, so I guess ...cvow,<br><br>You are against legalised murder, so I guess that means you are against the death penalty as well?<br><br>I ask because a lot of people seem to support the death penalty but do not support abortion.<br><br>So different from here in Europe. Any thoughts?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-70454666696981514542006-11-09T06:20:00.000-08:002006-11-09T06:20:00.000-08:00Yes, I am completely opposed to the death penalty...Yes, I am completely opposed to the death penalty. I do not think we have the right or the obligation to take anyone's life.<br><br>I am however in favor of prisons where criminals are given an 8x10 cell with no decorations on the wall, no radio or tv or internet access. I would give them a dry bed, wholesome food, adequate medical care, decent clothing, and treat them with the respect due any human being. They would live with a nine pound hammer and a large pile of rocks that needed to be made into small rocks. A day of rest would be granted each week. There would be no parole for "good behavior", which is the most ridiculous concept that anyone ever came up with. If you do the crime, you do the time, but no, I would not have anyone "riding the needle".cvowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05363193317516090926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-66833784606588692332006-11-09T06:36:00.000-08:002006-11-09T06:36:00.000-08:00Minnesota just voted in the first ever Muslim to t...Minnesota just voted in the first ever Muslim to the House of Representatives! What do you think of them apples?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-89336074487791827612006-11-09T07:49:00.000-08:002006-11-09T07:49:00.000-08:00Anyone wanna join me in a dance? Happy, happy, hap...Anyone wanna join me in a dance? Happy, happy, happy here. Hooey, Rumsfeld out, Pelosi in, what next?<br><br>We Washingtonians are still waiting to see if Mr. Stronglaw beats Ms. Youngheart . . . that would be David Reichert (R) and Darcy Burner (D). Eight years ago I did some work for then-Sheriff Reichert, who is a lovely, principled (and needlessly goodlooking) man. I'll never forget putting my arm around him in a photo-shoot and knocking against his Kevlar vest. The fact that he NEEDED one gave this liberal an immediate, profound lesson in reality.<br><br>So you think I would vote for him, right? Nah. <br><br>By his own admission, he "goes where they tell me to go." As much as he would like to be green, for example, he is indebted to the business interests that funded his campaign. <br><br>Sorry, Dave, hope ya lose.<br><br>Regarding abortion, cvow, "the Good Lord" if you will, aborts 15-20% of all pregnancies before term. Very wasteful, no? That's certainly what I thought when two of my pregnancies ended without warning.<br><br>Of course, there are many "natural" reasons a potential being does not become an actual being (across species -- read Sarah Hrdy for a fascinating study of this). In my case, a stressful job was probably a factor, photoshoots and all. When I quit, I carried to term.<br><br>Now if you consider it murder for a woman to decide what factors should end a pregnancy, then I urge you to do everything you can to make all pregnancies wanted and birth control 100% reliable, affordable and available, around the world.<br><br>Just don't pretend that the state should be the arbiter.<br><br>If today I discover I am pregnant (because of a birth control failure), it should and will be ME who decides how to handle the potential life within. No one else. <br><br>So call abortion murder if you wish. Just be honest about the moral complexities, and about where you end and I begin. <br><br>And pray that God won't ask you to answer for every drop of wasted, ahem, "baby batter."Julie Whitehornhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16921829370327742832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-51140460502646523082006-11-09T09:59:00.000-08:002006-11-09T09:59:00.000-08:00I think when you vote you have to look at all issu...I think when you vote you have to look at all issues. Not just vote against Democrats because they support abortion. I don't support abortion either, but I vote Democrat because I look at all issues, not just one. Republicans believe in the death penalty, to me thats murder. But I wouldn't let that one issue decide which way I vote.Faithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12086359067322870879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-9893666977678012082006-11-09T10:30:00.000-08:002006-11-09T10:30:00.000-08:00A big amen to you Faith.On Abortion:I have no righ...A big amen to you Faith.<br><br>On Abortion:<br>I have no right to decide for someone else about something that so profoundly affects their body and their life. It is a very dificult issue and I will always be thankful I never have had to make such a heartwrenching decision. <br>And I refuse to be a "one issue" voter. The fact that I voted for two republicans this time (albeit a very rare occurance)reassures me that I am not like a sheep just following a party line. I hope I continue to have the compassion and the open-mindedness to see the whole picture in polictics and in life.Ijumpedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04246448196579295253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-76573034711144196572006-11-09T11:59:00.000-08:002006-11-09T11:59:00.000-08:00ijumped, wondering if you could email me. Need som...ijumped, wondering if you could email me. Need some advice, if your interested. Thanks! <br>in-faith@hotmail.comFaithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12086359067322870879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8088717.post-1351116324853562492006-11-09T12:00:00.000-08:002006-11-09T12:00:00.000-08:00ijumped (and I don't mean to pick on you becau...ijumped (and I don't mean to pick on you because it's apparent several other posters have similar views), but you say "I have no right to decide for someone else about something that so profoundly affects their body and their life."<br><br>I assume that means you would not have the right to make that decision about the unborn child's life either.<br><br>And Free, I would never argue with the Lord if his decision is to end a life. I think he has the wisdom to make that decision -- I don't.cvowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05363193317516090926noreply@blogger.com